Oh, Jesus.

Nov. 5th, 2004 05:07 pm
sihayadesigns: (Jesusland! // evergleam83)
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Wooo! I got a USPS click-n-ship. Considering it's too early to get my 10/8 order, I'mm assuming my 9/22 is finally on the way! Combine this with two trader order and [livejournal.com profile] belladonnastrap's generosity, I will have an incredibly BPAL-eriffic week!

And for something less airheaded::

Via [livejournal.com profile] iamjackshate and CNN::

Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes.

Exerpted::

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush 3,893 extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said.

Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry's 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct.

The Secretary of State's Office said Friday it could not revise Bush's total until the county reported the error.


Yes, and considering Ohio's officials are so fucking committed to fairness, that's certainly likely to happen soon. And it goes on...

In one North Carolina county, more than 4,500 votes were lost because officials mistakenly believed a computer that stored ballots electronically could hold more data than it did. And in San Francisco, a malfunction with custom voting software could delay efforts to declare the winners of four races for county supervisor.

In the Ohio precinct in question, the votes are recorded onto a cartridge. On one of the three machines at that precinct, a malfunction occurred in the recording process, Damschroder said. He could not explain how the malfunction occurred.


The corruption in this country makes me sick. The bigotry this country approves of makes me sick. I've never been a particularly political person, but this is a wake up call for me. I need to get involved.


ETA:: [livejournal.com profile] jae_ has an awesome comparison map in his latest entry. Check it out.

Date: 2004-11-05 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snickersaddict.livejournal.com
That is so digusting. What's to say that fraud like that didn't happen all over the country??? You know if Kerry actually won the election, he gets to be President. But how are they ever going to determine what happened? Its the potential to be even a bigger mess than Florida was.

Date: 2004-11-05 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sihaya09.livejournal.com
The thing is-- Kerry doesn't want this to be another Florida, so I doubt his campaign will take legal action. There needs to be legal ramifications, though. And Blackwell-- that fucking little weasel is a zit on the face of humanity. URRRRGGGGGHHH.

They're not going to be able to determine it. The people running the election were highly partisan and denied neutral election monitors the right to step in and keep a watch. It was fixed from the get-go. Not only that, but GOP assholes "poll watchers" bullied contested so many (mostly black) voters into nearly worthless provisional ballots because no one knew what their voting rights were. So:

1) there were significant electronic poll mistakes
2) absentee ballots have not been tabulated
3) tons of provisional ballots were thrown out.

Way to fucking go, Ohio.

Date: 2004-11-05 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uberrod.livejournal.com
Hey, where did you get this information from? I have a Republican co-worker that always questions where this kind of information comes from. I'd love to be able to stick it to him. I mentioned that mostly blacks or other minorities were "challenged" but he wouldn't accept it.

Date: 2004-11-06 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sihaya09.livejournal.com
It was all over CNN and the news the night before the election that the appeals court could "challenge" votes, and they were stationed outside of mostly minority & Dem areas. Just search CNN's database.

Date: 2004-11-05 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-grow542.livejournal.com
oh wow. that map (and your icon). I don't know whether to laugh or cry....

Date: 2004-11-05 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dakinigrl.livejournal.com
great icon. but it doesn't necessarily point to corruption... just same old huma error could be at fault. It's hard not to be bitter, but if you look around the country those kinds of errors occured across the board.

Date: 2004-11-05 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sihaya09.livejournal.com
Nah, there are so many other things that happened on election day that point to corruption even better. The fact that these errors could occur in such a *pivotal* election gives me pause.

Date: 2004-11-05 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shannigansx.livejournal.com
I kind of take some offense to the Ohio stuff. While I won't argue that there probably was some corruption, there was a lot of right. The workers at my precinct (and two others since three were in the same room) were so sweet and helpful. I've never voted before and was all freaked out, and the lady was all like "Aww, honey, let me show you how to do it. I want your vote to count." And she grabbed a puncher from an empty station and showed me exactly how to use it.

Also, at one precinct, the power went out because the weather was kind of ick. Poll officials and voters got together and found flashlights and pulled up their cars with headlights on so people could see. They didn't want there to be any mistakes.

And one county had a major problem because one of the local candidates decided that day to pull out of the race. So they had to deal with a lot of write-ins which complicated the counting of the ballets.

There's other examples besides these. Being local, I hear the good things on the news as well as the bad. I think that Ohio is getting painted in a very bad light nationally because only the bad is focused on.

Of course, I'm not objecting that there was some wrong doing at certain precincts (because where politics are involved, there's almost always corruption), but definitely not in the majority.

Please take no offense to my comment. I just wanted to let you know that not all of Ohio has "bad voting" policies. And hey, my county actually had more votes for Kerry rather than Bush.

Date: 2004-11-05 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sihaya09.livejournal.com
I was not there, I'm only commenting on reports that are coming in. I personally think the issues I have lie more with the officials (Blackwell-- UGH) and their unwillingness to be committed to tabulating all the ballots before declaring a winner in such a crucial race. I'm sure there are better faces to Ohio voting. It can't be all negative, after all.

Date: 2004-11-05 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shannigansx.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know. All the national news focuses on is the negative. But I just wanted to bring a little positive light to my backwards ass state :-)

and their unwillingness to be committed to tabulating all the ballots before declaring a winner in such a crucial race.

Ohio has 11 days to count and verify the provisional ballets. Stuff about the provisional ballets has been going on for months, and they never did come to a clear decision on them. Idiots.

And you want to know what probably helped Bush to win Ohio? The Amish vote. There's around 50,000 and they don't always vote. But Bush went and spoke to them. There's no way they'd vote for a liberal. I'm not sure how many actually voted, but it probably helped him some.

Date: 2004-11-05 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetenthshadow.livejournal.com
Love the new icon, Christina. Especially how scary-true it seems to be.
Next they'll be back to burning witches...

Date: 2004-11-05 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] actresluv77.livejournal.com
I LOVE your icon

Date: 2004-11-06 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarchex.livejournal.com
In one North Carolina county, more than 4,500 votes were lost because officials mistakenly believed a computer that stored ballots electronically could hold more data than it did

In all fairness, the company that produced the machine in question admitted (according to quotes from my morning newspaper, anyway) that they provided incorrect information. They said the machine would hold something like 10,500 votes. In actuality, its capacity was a mightily arbitrary 3,005 votes. The county used the machine for early voting; they projected a turnout of under 10,500 votes by an appreciable margin, so decided to procure only one of the machines.
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